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Hi Nikita,

actually I have some doubts that your expression should have no

imaginary part. At least, if I look at the pieces of the imaginary part

that are proportional to u^3:

SelectNotFree[FCE[TrA2B2], Complex];

u3Piece = SelectNotFree[%, u^3] // EpsEvaluate

-512 I u^3 SP[p1, p2] LC[][k1, k2, p, s] +

512 I u^3 SP[p, p2] LC[][k1, k2, p1, s] -

512 I u^3 SP[p, p1] LC[][k1, k2, p2, s] +

512 I u^3 SP[k1, p2] LC[][k2, p, p1, s] -

512 I u^3 SP[k1, p] LC[][k2, p1, p2, s]

Schouten[%]

then it is clear that they do not vanish by the Schouten identity.

However since these are the only terms that contain u^3, I don't think

that they can be cancelled by other terms in the imaginary part.

Cheers,

Vladyslav

Am 25.07.2015 um 18:39 schrieb Nikita Belyaev:

*> Hello, Vladyslav
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*>
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*> We've faced with a problem that we couldn't solve. It is related to imaginary parts of the traces. We have some of them to calculate and a lot of them were already calculated correctly but for one specific term we cannot get the result without imaginary part.
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*> We've spent a lot of time using a FeynCalcFormLink procedure and also trying to apply the Scouten identity as you told us some time ago but we did not succeed because as I understand there is no common algorithm to check such kind of equivalence in the general case.
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*> Could you probably help us to check that the trace included contains no imaginary part?
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*>
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*> Here is the code of our calculation:
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*> Clear["Global`*"];
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*> <<HighEnergyPhysics`FeynCalc`
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*> Needs["FeynCalcFormLink`"]
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*> $LeviCivitaSign = -1;
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*>
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*> ScalarProduct[p,p]=m^2;
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*> ScalarProduct[p1,p1]=m^2;
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*> ScalarProduct[p2,p2]=m^2;
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*> ScalarProduct[k1,k1]=0;
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*> ScalarProduct[k2,k2]=0;
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*> ScalarProduct[q,q] = u^2;
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*> ScalarProduct[q,s] =0;
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*>
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*> Line13:= (GS[p2]-m).GA[\[Beta]1].(GS[p1]+m).GA[\[Beta]].(GS[p]-m).GA[\[Alpha]1].GS[k2].GA[\[Alpha]].(1-GA[5]);
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*> Line14:= GS[k1].GA[\[Alpha]1].(GS[q]-GS[p1]-GS[p2]-u).GA[\[Beta]1].(GS[q]-u).(1+GA[5].GS[s]).GA[\[Beta]].(GS[q]-GS[p1]-GS[p]-u).GA[\[Alpha]].(1-GA[5]);
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*> Line15:= (GS[p]-m).GA[\[Beta]1].(GS[p1]+m).GA[\[Beta]].(GS[p2]-m).GA[\[Alpha]1].GS[k2].GA[\[Alpha]].(1-GA[5]);
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*> Line16:= GS[k1].GA[\[Alpha]1].(GS[q]-GS[p1]-GS[p]-u).GA[\[Beta]1].(GS[q]-u).(1+GA[5].GS[s]).GA[\[Beta]].(GS[q]-GS[p1]-GS[p2]-u).GA[\[Alpha]].(1-GA[5]);
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*>
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*> Tr13= DiracTrace[Line13];
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*> Tr14= DiracTrace[Line14];
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*> Tr15= DiracTrace[Line15];
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*> Tr16= DiracTrace[Line16];
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*>
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*> TrA2B2=FeynCalcFormLink[Tr13.Tr14+Tr15.Tr16];
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*>
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*> ComplexExpand[FullSimplify[TrA2B2/1024]] //Schouten
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*>
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*> Thanks for your help!
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*>
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*> With the Best Regards,
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*> Nikita Belyaev
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*>
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